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February 9, 2010

Die Hard

Die Hard
Die Hard (1988)

IMDB rating: 8.10

Plot: New York cop John McClane, who has been a cop for 11 years, has just arrived in Los Angeles on Christmas Eve. For the past six months, John’s wife Holly and their two kids Lucy McClane and John McClane Jr have been living in Los Angeles without John. In New York, Holly had a good job that turned into a career, and Holly was promoted to a powerful position in the Nakatomi Corporation. The promotion called for Holly to move to Los Angeles to work in the Nakatomi Plaza, a 40 story building. John stayed in New York because he didn’t think Holly would make it out in Los Angeles, and that she would come crawling back to him in New York, so John figured that there was no reason to pack his things for the move to Los Angeles. A limo driver named Argyle drives John to the Nakatomi Plaza, and John heads to the 30th floor, where a Christmas party is going on. John gets into an argument with Holly in the office of her drug-snorting co-worker Harry Ellis because Holly uses her maiden name Gennero instead of the name McClane on her nameplate in her office. Holly leaves the room to give a speech. While John is by himself in the office, John is wishing that the argument hadn’t happened. A few minutes later, a group of German terrorists led by Hans Gruber and his right hand man Karl enter the building and take everyone hostage on the 30th floor. John is able to avoid being taken hostage because Hans and his men don’t even know that John is in the building. John heads to the upper floors, which are still under construction. Hans takes Holly’s boss Joseph Yashinobo Takagi to an office, where Hans demands that Takagi give him the computer code key that will allow Hans and his men to start opening the building’s safe so they can steal the $640,000,000 in negotiable bearer bonds that are in the safe. Takagi refuses to cooperate with Hans, so Hans kills Takagi, and John witnesses it. Hans tells his technology expert Theo to start working on getting the safe opened, and Theo thinks it’ll take a couple of hours to do it. John frantically tries to find a way to alert the LAPD, realizing that the main phone lines in the building have been cut. Once the police do arrive, they prove to be incompetent under the command of arrogant deputy chief Dwayne T. Robinson, so it’s up to John to rescue the hostages.

Directors: McTiernan John

Actors: Willis Bruce,Rickman Alan,Godunov Alexander,Gleason Paul,White De’voreaux,Atherton William,Bochner Hart,Shigeta James,Johnson Reginald,VelJohnson Reginald,Hayden Dennis,Gilyard Jr. Clarence,Doyon Bruno,Wisniewski Andreas,Davi Robert,Action,Crime,Thriller,

Is it normal for a 14 year old to be this attached to his father?
I know this very nice african family that just moved into our neighborhood about 3 months ago from West Africa. It is just the father and the son, the boy is his only child and the mother died about 10 months ago. I have became friends with his father and made them feel welcome comfortable here and I even volunteered to drop his son off at the school every morning since since I have to head that way ever morning for me to go to work his father has to leave for work the opposite way and he doesn’t have time to do so. This morning when I went to knock on his door to pick him up so we could take off he had his backpack on and everything getting ready to walk out the door and then his dad just walked up and kissed him smack on the lips for about 4 seconds then headed out for his car. And his son just took it like it was no big.
I noticed that him and his son are very close because they are always kissing like this before they leave and start their day. And last week I just finished babysitting his son for nearly two weeks straight because his father had to fly across the country to New York regarding something that was required in his job. That day when he came over to my house to pick his son up he told me about it and said that he wanted to bring his son with him but he didn’t want him missing any school. So I said that I wouldn’t mind taking his son in and watch him for that week that he was going to be gone for, because I’ve got two other empty bedrooms, no kids and my husband and I aren’t together anymore so there’s plenty of room for his son to stay. I could tell his son really wanted to go with him too because when we were talking about it he didn’t say much. He had to leave on a Friday morning so he dropped his son off at my house at 5 in the morning because he had to be at the airport by 8. I’ve never seen a father and son so close in my life. When he dropped his son over to my house that morning we talked for about 15 minutes or so, and he told me that he didn’t want his son out of sight, he didn’t want him walking about in any stores alone, or going outside to play during the night. He is very protective of his son.
Before he left he pulled his son close to his chest, they hugged each other tight and kissed on the lips a few times. He told his son that he loved him and for him to do all of his school work. I had to help him get his son to stop hugging him because he had wrapped his arms around his fathers neck and wouldn’t let go. I literally had to hold his son down just so his father could walk out the door. He told me he will be back in a week and they he would give me money for watching him, but I refused and said I was just happy to be doing it for free as we are friends now. Then he drove on down to the airport.
Well late that afternoon when I picked his son up from school he got into my car looking upset and I could tell by his eyes all red and watery, that he had been crying at school. I asked him what was wrong, and he said that he didn’t want his father to go and that he had never had been away from his father as long as a week. I told him it he’d be fine and that we would have alot of fun, and that 7 days would go by so fast before his eyes. Well I guess I was wrong.
When I got home I cooked him something to eat, but he just kept staring into the distance as if he didn’t have an appetite. I fixed up one of the spare rooms for him and I had already had some board games out that I had planned to play with him with, but right when I finished fixing him a room up he just went straight to bed.
The next morning it was Saturday and he had asked to call his dad. He didn’t have a cellphone so I let him use the house phone. I listenend to his conversation the whole time while I was in the kitchen cooking breakfeast and all I’ve heard him do was complain and whine about how he missed him and wanted him to come back. And his father wasn’t even gone for 2 days yet!
So that day I tried to make him feel more comfortable with his father being gone, so I told him I’d take him out and around town (money wise). I can tell that his father is working hard struggling with his job and trying to make money to pay his bills because he tells me he isin’t being treated the best at work, and he is being paid very low for the type of work that he does, so him flying out of California to Newyork had to be something big for him to get a better position in his work. His father can’t afford to go out and buy him all these name brand clothes, and the boy only has 2 or 3 outfits and the rest was just his traditional African clothing and he only had a pair of sandals.
So that day I took his son out all around town and to the mall to get him some clothes and shoes to wear. He didn’t even have a coat and it was pouring down raining, his father left him his coat for him to wear but it was way too big on him. So I took him out and tried to find him one of those too. I was having fun taking him around town and picking ou
I was having fun taking him around town and picking out things for him to try on, but he just looked as if he was miserable. There was so much of nice clothes in his size too, he is very slim and he’s really tiny only about 5′1, so it wasn’t hard to find clothes in his size. But he wasn’t even interested in the clothes! I was the one going through clothing racks in the boy’s section and picking stuff out for him and he just stood there looking sad as if he didn’t want to be there. I literally bought him a new wardrobe that day.
Then when we got home that night his father called and told me that he had to stay for an extended time for about 6 more days which means he wouldn’t get back until 12 more days. He asked to speak to his son about it, and right when his son got on the phone and he told him he had to stay for 6 more days, His son started to burst into tears and he was crying so bad to the point that the snought just came pouring out of his nose. I didn’t know what else he was cr
I didn’t know what else he was crying about because he stopped talking in english and started to speak in some other african language. I took the phone back from him and his father said to tell his son that he will call him back Monday afternoon because he would be very busy all Sunday. So I told his son.
Then when Sunday came I couldn’t get the boy out of bed to eat break feast. He just layed under the blankets with his face in the pillow and said he felt ill. I have a Wii and an X box 360 but he wounldn’t even come out to play on that. He just layed there the whole day tying knots in a scarf or whatever he was doing.
When it was Monday afternoon he waited for his dad to call him back as promised, he waited all the way until it was night, and he still didn’t get a phone call. I walked in the room that night and he was under the blankets crying his heart out again. I told him that his father didn’t forget about him and that he must just be really busy again. He said that he was afrai
He said that he was afraid that something might have happened to his father and that he may be hurt. He said that his father always tucks him into bed at night, or sometimes he sleeps in the bed with his father and he cuddles him to sleep. So I tucked him in that night but I could tell that he still wished his father was there to tuck him in.
I know his father told me that he and his mother used to do alot of things togehter. She taught him how to cook, and I’ve tried his cooking before and it tastes wonderful. He cooks for his father all the time when he gets home from work.
Well the rest of the 9 days that his son was with me he was still sad and waiting imapatiently for his father to get home. The only time his son was happy was when the night that his father was supposed to arrive. He was sitting and waiting by the door the whole night, and once he heard that first knock he jumped up and opened it and he nearly jumped into his father’s arms. His father was holding the side of his
His father was holding the side of his head against his chest just hugging him and kissing him on his forehead, a few times on his lips and just rocking side to side with him still hugging him. His son started to cry again into his fathers chest as If he was releasing all the tension of being away from him.
I don’t understand because the boy was only with me for about 13 days and and I’ve been nothing but caring to him! All those clothes I bought him and video games that I tried to get him to play that he wouldn’t touch. His father had actually come home 4 days earlier just so he could be with his son and so his son could be happy again. His father thanked me he tried to pay me, but I said ”No it’s okay.” just to be nice then he just walked home with his arm around his son. I wasn’t shocked to hear when I asked his son how he felt when his father was back and he told me he felt better because he had slept in his fathers bed with him that night, and fell asleep in his arms. He says t
He says that makes him feel safe.
Do you think maybe I should talk to his father about and ask him why he’s so depressed when he is away from his? I think he needs to see some kind of psyciatrist or counsiler because I don’t think it is normal for a 14 yearold to be this attached to his father with all the crying, hugging and kissing. That usually stops at age 6 it doesn’t go on when you’re 14.
Do you think I should mention something to his father?


Negro I aint reading that shit
Norm | Feb 06, 2010


I really dont think that this is as strange as you might think i mean the kissing on the lips is a it weird for 4 seconds but in all honesty thats just how some parents (or the kid) decide to kiss there parent/child. As for the crying when i was about 5 or 6 my father died this has had some major effects on my life those being i slept in my mothers bed till i was about 8 because i didn’t want to be apart from her i hated it when we had to have someone to babysit and i would try to make her stay evn if that ment clinging onto her leg screaming and crying just because i didn’t want to loose her aswell now my mother started her life after this trying as hard as she could to get by and she ended up becoming freinds with one of our neighbours who really helped my family through it now this may just mean that you are that freind to this man i mean you could start by trying to get the kid out of his bed and into his own ans trying to get the kid to start being more indipendant maybe having him stay over at a freinds or at yours for the night telling him his father will call at 8:00 to wish him goodnight and trying to get the kids confidence up i had a best freind who i felt i could always confide in and it made me feel so much better and keep doing what your doing being helpfull and kind it will all help them and it may be some time till they both get over the death of the mother but they will get over it and helping with taking the kid to school is exaactly the kind things you should do.
Janeyxx | Feb 06, 2010


This child and his father come from a place far far away, and a culture that is far different than our own. You were doing everything that you would normally do for an AMERICAN child who has been in our country all their life and is responsive to our cultural normalities. i.e. our clothes, our games, our foods, how we interact with neighbors/non-relatives, etc. etc. This child is from another world than our own, and ALL things are new to him here. And to a very large degree they are to his Dad too. The kissing etc. are also their means of coping in a foreign and still somewhat fearsome land for them. All they have and care about for now is each other. It will take them time to understand our ways. I doubt very much if the child needs to see a mental health professional just now. The symptoms you describe him having when his Dad was away are consistant with temporary depression which, given the circumstances, seems normal and natural. Remember they are not Americanized yet, and that can only come with time and gradual experiences. Be patient, we have lots to learn in terms of love from such people. You poured out a lot of love towards that boy, it will take him a bit of a while, but it will dawn on him one day how great you treated him, I think you will have a friend for life in him, patience is the key word. You seem to be a very nice neighbor and friend.
Nathanael | Feb 06, 2010

X2

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X2
X2 (2003)

IMDB rating: 7.80

Plot: Having returned from the north after finding nothing, Wolverine/Logan watches over the school students for a night as Charles Xavier visits Magneto in his plastic confinement prison and Storm and Jean Grey search for a teleporter mutant known as Nightcrawler who attempted to assassinate the president. Things become deadly as William Stryker, a scientist who has experimented on mutants, leads a siege on Xavier’s mansion- few mutants escape. With the school no longer safe, Magneto out of prison and forming a temporary alliance with the X-Men, and Professor Xavier in the hands of Stryker; the mutants team up to stop Stryker’s plans to wipe the mutants off the face of the Earth.

Directors: Singer Bryan

Actors: Stewart Patrick,Jackman Hugh,Jackman Hugh,McKellen Ian,McKellen Ian,Marsden James,Marsden James,Cox Brian,Action,Adventure,Sci-Fi,Thriller,

Calculus help!!!!!~~~~~~?
Use Green’s theorem to find the area between the ellipse x2/4 + y2/25 = 1 and the circle x2 + y2 = 100.


Search google for Green examples
iyiogrenci | Feb 05, 2010


A(ellipse) = pi * a * b

a = 2
b = 5

A(circle) = pi * r^2
r = 10

A(circle) – A(ellipse) = A(remainder)

100 * pi – 10 * pi = 90 * pi

Sorry, I don’t know how to use Green’s Theorem. Also, in this case, what I did was correct because the ellipse and the circle never intersect in 2 or more places. If they intersected at just one point, then the method I used would still work. I just wanted to let the chronic downvoters know that before they decide to be a tad dickish.
Captain Matticus, LandPiratesInc | Feb 05, 2010

Burn After Reading

Burn After Reading
Burn After Reading (2008)

IMDB rating: 7.60

Plot: A disk containing the memoirs of a CIA agent ends up in the hands of two unscrupulous gym employees who attempt to sell it.

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Directors: Coen Ethan

Actors: Clooney George,Jenkins Richard,Kulick Logan,Malkovich John,Miller Tim,Pitt Brad,Richardson Eric,Rumer Devin,Strange Patrick Michael,Venito Lenny,Walton Matt,Comedy,Drama,

Need help with a little English, please? Best Answer.?
1. Why is

February 8, 2010

Lucky Number Slevin

Lucky Number Slevin
Lucky Number Slevin (2006)

IMDB rating: 7.80

Plot: After landing in the wrong place at the wrong time, Slevin (Josh Hartnett) must kill The Rabbi’s (Ben Kingsley) to scratch a $96,000 debt to The Boss (Morgan Freeman) and pay off $33,000 to The Rabbi. He can’t go to the police and he can’t leave the city. On top of all this, behind the scene’s Mr. Smith aka Mr. Goodkat (Bruce Willis) is secretly plotting to kill Slevin.

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Directors: McGuigan Paul

Actors: Hartnett Josh,Willis Bruce,Liu Lucy,Freeman Morgan,Kingsley Ben,Williamson Mykelti,Crime,Drama,Thriller,

What's the background music in Wu-Tang's"Tearz"?
The background music of the woman singing in the background of the beginning of Wu-Tang Clan’s song "Tearz", it is also a song from the movie "Lucky Number Slevin"


Wendy Rene – After Laughter

Mechanical | Sep 01, 2009

My Stepmother Is an Alien

My Stepmother Is an Alien
My Stepmother Is an Alien (1988)

IMDB rating: 4.70

Plot: Widowed astronomer Steven Mills accidentally sends a great surge of energy out into space, threatening life on another world. They respond by dispatching one of their race disguised in deliberately attractive human form (Celeste Martin) to Earth to sort things out, accompanied by a rather less attractive superior (Bag). Steven is indeed attracted, as is his untrustworthy brother, while Celeste becomes increasingly fond of Steven’s young daughter.

buy and download My Stepmother Is an Alien this is really cheap price for it

Directors: Benjamin Richard

Actors: Aykroyd Dan,Lovitz Jon,Maher Joseph,Green Seth,Mann Wesley,Jay Tony,Bromilow Peter,Shearer Harry,Sparks Adrian,Comedy,Sci-Fi,

NAME THAT NOVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
Okay, everyone, let’s play name that novel!
I’ll give you a quote or some information about a book, and you tell me what book it is! (This includes different kinds of books, ranging from fantasy to sci-fi to horror to manga!) 10 points to whoever gets the most right! Hats off to whoever can get them ALL right! Ready?
1. This book is about a boy genius who kidnaps a fairy
2. This book is about a girl who is about to be sacraficed, and then falls in love with the god of the winds.
3. This series of books is about a vampire than must inject her victims with blood, otherwise risk getting serious nosebleeds.
4. This series of books is about a girl who can turn her thoughts into reality, but is completely unaware of it. (Hint: she also forms a strange club at school, and would do anything to meet an alien or something.)
5. This book is a spoof on the play "Little Shop of Horrors", and is about plants that eat socks.
6. This book is about 6 boys who are stuck at a juvinielle delinquent school, and discover that they possess psychic powers.
7. This book is about three children that go to a planet where everyone is perfect (in a very spooky way). (Hint: it’s a well-known classic!)
8. This book is about a boy who can travel to other worlds, and must save them all from disaster with him uncle.
9. This book is about a boy and his friends, who are descendants of Greek gods.
10. This book is about a boy that is raised by a troll, and saves a princess from being married off and her stepmother from taking over the kingdom. (Hint: the boy likes to invent things, and the queen owns a ferret.)
For question 10, the princess knows people thoughts and emotions by touching them.
On question 7, there are characters named Mrs. Whatsit, Mrs. Who, and Mrs. Which.


2. Ever
3. Is Chibi Vampire, right? I think that’s what it’s called.
4. Is The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.
7. Uhm… a Wrinkle In Time?
8. Pendragon?

Jen | Apr 12, 2009


4. the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya
Not Your Typical Radical | Apr 12, 2009


1. Artemis Fowl
2. N/A
3. Chibi Vampires
4. N/A
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A
8. Pendragon
9. Perry Jackson and the Olympians
10. N/A
Kelly | Apr 12, 2009


1, artemis fowl
10. percy jackson
4 the melancholy of haruhi
sugarcone182 | Apr 12, 2009


1. Artemis Fowl

2. ??

3. ??

4. This sounds a lot like an anime I know, and since there are know current matches in my library of knowledge, I’m just gonna come out and say (guess) it. Haruhi Suzumiya series?

5. ??

6. ??

7. ??

8. ??

9. ??

10. ??

This makes me sad. Really, really sad looking at how much I know — or don’t, rather. A lot sounded really familiar, which bugs me because I probably, sometime, read at last 5 of these. :|

Maybe I’ll edit later if anymore pop into my head. -____-"
Mizutoki loves kane from Hawaii | Apr 12, 2009


1. Artemis Fowl Series
8. Pendragon Series
9. Percy Jackson Series

Wow, I can only get three, I’m ashamed of myself. This is a really interesting question, I think I’ll make my own. 7 and 4 sound really interesting, especially 7.

Edit- You’ll tell us the answers eventually, right? I really want to know what 7 is.
felliax | Apr 12, 2009

Give ‘em Hell, Malone

Give 'em Hell, Malone
Give ‘em Hell, Malone (2009)

IMDB rating: 6.70

Plot: A tough as nails private investigator (Malone) squares off with gangsters and their thugs to protect a valuable secret. Malone goes through hell to protect the information but he dishes some hell as well…

Give ‘em Hell, Malone

Directors: Mulcahy Russell

Actors: Abadie William,Andriole David,Deatherage Melody,Goodwin Jhon,Hampton R.J.,Harrison Gregory,Hutchison Doug,Jane Thomas,Olson Tom,Orser Leland,Rhames Ving,Salvatore Dominic,Stewart French,Treadway Patrick,Weatherbee Randy,Action,Crime,Thriller,

Movie Trailer Music (this one is hard)?
it is in the ‘Give Em Hell,Malone trailer and i’m sure one of the Star Wars Movies as well

starts at around 55 seconds in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9MJXSePl _A
it was a classical piece
FOUND IT

it was called ‘Return of the Jedi’ from the movie of the same name


Rusty Cage – Johnny Cash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhEmwgzmM sM

Bog woppit. | Aug 26, 2009

February 7, 2010

Civic Duty

Civic Duty
Civic Duty (2006)

IMDB rating: 6.50

Plot: An American accountant bombarded with cable news and the media’s obsession with terrorist plots in the post 9-11 world, receives a jolt when an unattached Islamic graduate student moves in next door.

Directors: Renfroe Jeff

Actors: Krause Peter,Abol Naga Khaled,Schiff Richard,Tracey Ian,Brandon Mark,Docherty Mark,Duncan Allan,Murdoch Laurie,Roberds Michael,St. John Smith Michael,Verdoni Bruno,Thriller,

Have any of you thought about doing a reverse mitgation if you're an immigrant?
I was brought here as a child and was educated here (Private education; so it’s not like I’m sucking the taxpayer’s money to benefit another country when my parents paid for our education in tax dollars and never had their kids use it). I’m finding myself more and more attracted to the idea of moving back to my original country. It’s mostly because I love the life style (think NYC) and the economy of the country I’m talking about is going nowhere but up at least for the next few decades and partially out of civic duty I want to be part of the movement that help the country become more democratized even if all I’m allowed to do is to go out into the streets and protest several times a year.

Are any of you thinking about doing the same thing? What are your reasons?
Countries aren’t going to become more democratic if all of the people who want change abandon the country.


Absolutely nothing wrong with your idea.

In fact most people who do become naturalized citizens of the US do so only so they can exploit the opportunities available in the US to send more to their families abroad or so that they can bring their extended families here.

So if you can use your American education and life experience to help another country then that can only be good.

I know of people who have done that. Some have settled down happily in their home country others have regretted their decision and returned to the US. It all depends on your attitude and the strength of your belief in the ideals that are taking you back to the country of your birth.

So go for it! But be prepared to face adjustment problems. Living permanently in a country is different from living there for a month or two when you’re on holidays. It is fun to go for a holiday to your home country with US currency and lots of free time to visit places and enjoy yourself. It is a very different experience to have to work for a living in the same place and deal with the drudgery of daily life.

There may differences in the kinds of freedom available to the people of the US and your native country.

You may find yourself regarded as an outsider even if you look like the locals and speak like them. So do avoid ever openly comparing the two countries. And since no one forced you to go and live there avoid complaining about problems. It will create a negative impression of you among the locals.

Government related business happens much more smoothly in the US than in many lesser developed countries. So you will need to be more patient.

So it might be a good idea to spend a whole year in your native country before you make the actual decision to give up your US citizenship/residency.

Good luck!

S M | Dec 13, 2009


Yes, by all means go to your country of origin and live the life. You will immediately notice the differences in your personal and professional freedoms. I’m surprised your parents haven’t put you on a plane already!! After all, they spent all that money on your education and you should put it to good use in the country they fled from! I find it marvelous when someone like you takes all the the US has to offer for granted, because, after all, it is our youth that are being sacrificed for your right to freedom of speech! God Bless America!!!
MALA | Dec 13, 2009


go to japan they are hiring car wipes
bobby | Dec 13, 2009

February 6, 2010

Hostel: Part II

Hostel: Part II
Hostel: Part II (2007)

IMDB rating: 5.40

Plot: 3 beautiful college students are tricked into entering a hostel where the ‘hosts’ like to torture, rape and murder. Following a geographical tour of Slovakia, three women are lured into a hostel by a handsome young man who sells them to the twisted masters, who tie them up and bring upon an unthinkable world of pain…

Directors: Roth Eli

Actors: Bart Roger,Burgi Richard,Ianevski Stanislav,Knazko Milan,Furak Ivan,Hernandez Jay,Devenuto Davide,Vancura Petr,Horror,

Hostel II The movie?
i watched 1/2 the movie and i was going to puke because of the gore. So we wanted to know how to dress and what kind of props. There are going to be other movie themes in the haunted house so our "hostel II" part is just a small sgement of the haunted house. What should we wear? What kind of props do we put? I looked through pictures and i wanted to be that girl with the blonde wavyish hair ( i forgot her name) so what do i wear? BTW its 3 girls doing this. PLEASE GIVE LOTS AND LOTS OF DETAIL!


dress hot the women in that movie were hot.

John Harris | Oct 03, 2008

Poet, The

Poet, The
Poet, The (2003)

IMDB rating: 3.70

Plot: A contract killer sees a chance to free himself from a tragic past.

Directors: Hills Paul

Actors: Scott Dougray,Prochnow Jurgen,Potts Andrew Lee,Herz-Kestranek Miguel,Mouka Peter,Prinz Hary,Ruggiero Rudy,Gillian Gunther,Kloth Jurgen,Nierhoff Klaus,Polap Siegfried,Thriller,Drama,Romance,

Does anyone know the key point of this article?
Of Love
by Francis Bacon

The stage is more beholding to love, that the life of man. For as to the stage, love is ever matter of comedies, and now and then of tragedies; but in life it doth much mischief; sometimes like a siren, sometimes like a fury. You may observe, that amongst all the great and worthy persons (whereof the memory remaineth, either ancient or recent) there is not one, that hath been transported to the mad degree of love: which shows that great spirits, and great business, do keep out this weak passion. You must except, nevertheless, Marcus Antonius, the half partner of the empire of Rome, and Appius Claudius, the decemvir and lawgiver; whereof the former was indeed a voluptuous man, and inordinate; but the latter was an austere and wise man: and therefore it seems (though rarely) that love can find entrance, not only into an open heart, but also into a heart well fortified, if watch be not well kept. It is a poor saying of Epicurus, Satis magnum alter alteri theatrum sumus; as if man, made for the contemplation of heaven, and all noble objects, should do nothing but kneel before a little idol and make himself a subject, though not of the mouth (as beasts are), yet of the eye; which was given him for higher purposes. It is a strange thing, to note the excess of this passion, and how it braves the nature, and value of things, by this; that the speaking in a perpetual hyperbole, is comely in nothing but in love. Neither is it merely in the phrase; for whereas it hath been well said, that the arch-flatterer, with whom all the petty flatterers have intelligence, is a man’s self; certainly the lover is more. For there was never proud man thought so absurdly well of himself, as the lover doth of the person loved; and therefore it was well said, That it is impossible to love, and to be wise. Neither doth this weakness appear to others only, and not to the party loved; but to the loved most of all, except the love be reciproque. For it is a true rule, that love is ever rewarded, either with the reciproque, or with an inward and secret contempt. By how much the more, men ought to beware of this passion, which loseth not only other things, but itself! As for the other losses, the poet’s relation doth well figure them: that he that preferred Helena, quitted the gifts of Juno and Pallas. For whosoever esteemeth too much of amorous affection, quitteth both riches and wisdom. This passion hath his floods, in very times of weakness; which are great prosperity, and great adversity; though this latter hath been less observed: both which times kindle love, and make it more fervent, and therefore show it to be the child of folly. They do best, who if they cannot but admit love, yet make it keep quarters; and sever it wholly from their serious affairs, and actions, of life; for if it check once with business, it troubleth men’s fortunes, and maketh men, that they can no ways be true to their own ends. I know not how, but martial men are given to love: I think, it is but as they are given to wine; for perils commonly ask to be paid in pleasures. There is in man’s nature, a secret inclination and motion, towards love of others, which if it be not spent upon some one or a few, doth naturally spread itself towards many, and maketh men become humane and charitable; as it is seen sometime in friars. Nuptial love maketh mankind; friendly love perfecteth it; but wanton love corrupteth, and embaseth it.

Jab We Met

Jab We Met
Jab We Met (2007)

IMDB rating: 7.90

Plot: Bhatinda-based Geet Dhillon lives a wealthy lifestyle along with her parents and extended family consisting of her paternal grandfather, uncle, and a cousin, Roop. She re-locates to study in Mumbai and lives in a hostel. On her way home she boards the Punjab Mail on Chatrapati Shivaji Terminus and gets to share her berth with a young man named Aditya Kashyap. She finds him rather depressing and when he attempts to jump off the train, she stops him, and attempts to cheer him up with her non-stop chatter – albeit in vain. At Bar Nagar he alights from the train and she follows, both end up missing the train and take a taxi-cab to Ratlam which is the train’s next stop. They barely make it, Aditya goes his way, but Geet misses the train which goes on it’s way to Kota along with Geet’s belongings. Both meet again and end up spending a few hours at a motley hotel, but their stay is interrupted when Police swoop down on it, forcing them to flee along with other guests. They trek the rest of the way by bus, then by car and end up at Geet’s residence where preparations are under way for Geet’s marriage with her childhood friend, Manjeet Singh Mann. But Geet wants to marry Manali-based Anshuman, so she plans a getaway with Aditya’s help, leaving the Dhillon family to construe that both had eloped. Nine months later the Dhillons catch up with Aditya and ask him to bring her back to Bhatinda within 10 days. Aditya, who has been dumped by his girlfriend, has his mom run away with another male, have his dad pass away recently, apart from carrying the load of Kashyap Group of Industries, must now contend with the Dhillon family. The question remains is Geet living with Aditya or is she with Anshuman, and if she is with Aditya – why would it take him 10 days to bring her back to Bhatinda?

Jab We Met

Directors: Ali Imtiaz

Actors: Kapur Shahid,Arora Tarun,Singh Dara,Malhotra Pavan,Tiwari Kamal,Thakkar Nihar,Jussawala F.J.,Sharma Vishal,Sharma Deepak,Comedy,Romance,

impatient new owners and risking the puppies health?
I have recently had a litter of puppies, i had a list of people waiting and they took priority as we did not know the exact number from the scan.
The puppies are all K.C reg and no problems with health etc. The problem is with one of the potential owners, or i do not know if am being a little sensitive on this sub ject.

The new owners already have the same breed as i have bred [siberian husky] and contacted me early last year for a pup. i did not have any so they said they would wait. They kept in touch and as a gesture of goodwill i have knocked some money off the K.C price. They have visited, met our dogs, the parents and are a very nice couple. They asked me if i would sell to them without papers as they have one also and it has no papers and they are not concerned about a piece of paper [as they put it].
I considered it, and thought for a while and stated that all my dogs are vaccinated prior to leaving and vet checked. This is included in the price. I was silly and agreed to the non K.C, but still to go by the same guidelines of check etc, so the pup will still go vaccinated and vet checked, just no papers as requested.
My vet has recently changed the date of vaccinations to pups to 8.5 weeks, so the puppies will not leave here until 9th week [earliest]. Now this couple have insisted that they want to take the puppy this sunday when it is 8 weeks old. I said to them if they do they have to sign a waiver to state that it is under their insistance that he leaves, and i would prefer him to stay till he is vet checked/vac with 1st jab. I will then know he is leaving safe and well.
I feel really let down by this, i have dropped the money for this couple by over ?150 because they were on a waiting list so long and kept in touch, a genuine goodwill gesture. But i feel they are throwing it back in my face. I believe a dogs health is more important than taking the dog earlier. They are getting the dog cheaper but they want it all their own way from what i can see. They do not appear happy signing the waiver and wanted the vaccination price knocked off as they would be getting it done.
am i being too soft on these people, or am i right to have asked them to sign a waiver as it is their decision. They do not seem too happy about the waiver, and i regret now saying they could have the dog non K.C and should have kept it official and no knock down price even though they were waiting the longest. i was stupid to do it, a lesson learnt!
I feel like they are trying to take advantage of the situation by asking for no waiver and vaccination money off too!

APOLOGIES FOR THE LONG POST.
they do ahev a fit and healthy same sexed dog [as i have met him] so iam not concerned of the breeding issues. If they were to take papers i instist on the p/work a PNFR, and no breeding unless the mating couple are health tested. They do not intent to breed just run them, hence one of the reasons no papers was given. I was worrying why there was such a rush. the man has to go on a course for 2 weeks, so i said collect afterwards. i will not back down with the money, and as many replies have suggested i believe i have compromised enough.
if the waiver is not signed, or they will not wait then they should not get the pup. but can they sue me for breach of agreement [if they could afford to of course]?
Thank you all for taking time to reply and be so helpful. forgot to add that on my last post. x


First I want to say that I’m very impressed with you. You are a good concerned breeder….. I mean I usually hate breeders because the ones i’ve met (through working at an animal hospital) just don’t care this much…. Anyway my thoughts are that these puppies are your responsibility, which makes this completely your choice, I personally would have done the same thing about the papers…. If they don’t want them then why do I care if they have them, however, the vaccines are a different story. Those are to protect the puppy and as a breeder your job would be to protect them and find them a family to continue protecting them to your standards. If I (a complete stranger) came to you and said I wanted one of your dogs, and you asked if I vaccinated my last dog and I said no, you would have told me no, right. Well I could just as easy lie to you and say yes i always vaccinated him and you would have never known the difference. So will these people vaccinate? Who’s to say for sure. If you make them wait and do it when your vet wants to vaccinate, then, you at least know this dog has gotten what he needs. Even if they never bring him in for shots, you would at least get that first distemper into him which may be enough, who knows. If it were me I would tell them i’m not ok with letting a puppy go without its proper shots. I would say that I really like you guys, your a nice couple, but this is how I do things and the more I think about this the more i’m doubting what I told you I would do. I’m sorry if you want to pick up the dog the following week at this price _____ that’s fine but I cant bend on this. Now if I were these people I would be disappointed BUT I would be reassured that you are a quality breeder and I would still want one of you dogs. When the breeders stress over the puppy’s health and well being I’m impressed. I know you don’t want to disappoint them because you do like them but you are the breeder and you are in charge. Thanks for listening, I’m sorry this was like a novel lol…. Good luck

mondogecko | Jan 20, 2010


Your puppy – you call the shots (no pun intended). You stick to your guns and do what’s right for your puppy!!! These people are pushing and at the end of the day, your first concern has to be for the well being of your puppy. If you explain your position to them, and they still don’t accept it, don’t sell the puppy to them. There will be others out there after all.

Seems to be you’ve bent over backwards to accommodate these people already. Enough!!

And remember, if they are acting like this now, you could be setting yourself up for years of them coming back at you…..
MamaBas | Jan 20, 2010


It sounds like they are incredibly impatient about all this. I mean they’ve waited months, what’s an additional 1-2 weeks at most? Also, you’re not requesting this extra time out of spite or reluctance to let this puppy go, you’re simply doing it for the health of the puppy (to make sure it’s got the clean bill of health according to the vet, and all the necessary vaccinations). You should stand your ground and be firm about the necessity for them to sign a waiver that they are acknowledging that they are waiving the vaccinations and that any health issues that may arise is not your concern or liability because they have decided to take the puppy home earlier than recommended by you, the breeder.

Also, I do think it’s extremely cheeky of them to ask for an additional discount since they’re not getting the vaccinations. They chose not to get them. It’s not like you slapped on a vaccination fee on top of the sale price. It’s all inclusive. If people opt out of that (especially since a discount has already been offered), that’s THEIR choice and it shouldn’t mean an additional discount. Why don’t you compromise this way if you like. Tell them that you’ll charge them the full price for the puppy and not give them the ?150 discount and that you’ll just not charge them for the vaccination fee as they requested. They can take that offer or they can take the ?150 discount you offered, and stop requesting the vaccination fee be waived.
the_unluckiest | Jan 20, 2010


You already gave them a cheaper price.. I would not knock it down any farther… shots or no shots.

If they want to take the puppy early, then they must sign the waiver. They have waited this long, whats another week?

Stand your ground on this one.. you’ve been pretty fair thus far. If I was a breeder, I personally would not sell a dog "without papers", and I wouldnt even consider letting a dog leave without its shots, puppies would leave when I decide they are ready to go, not when the buyer decides they are ready for the puppy.
BYBs get TD for bad answers | Jan 20, 2010


The KC part don’t bather me it just means there not going to breed . I would get the Waiver signed to protected your self . Did you tell them you took 150.00 off the price already . also do they know it will cost them more to have the shots dune then it will cost you to have it dune most vets Only charge 1 office visit fee for more then one dog seen at the same visit . Tell them your not Knocking that part off what they would pay your knocking what you would have payed off after all your not out the money if you didn’t do it . also why cant they wight to get the dog They wighted so long as is whats 1 more week . Find out why they cant wight 1 more week .
so If they sign the waiver or wight 1 more week you would be ok letting them have the pup Then the real question on your mind is why cant they wight ?
If for any reason you no longer want to sell this pup to them If you don’t have a signed contracted already Then don’t let them have the pup Go with your gut feeling . That’s what I would do .
need help | Jan 20, 2010


Don’t let them push any further, stick to your guns and keep the puppy until 9 weeks, its your pup you can do what ever you like and if they don’t like it then tough titties. Keep the pup for a tad longer, don’t knock off any more money, you’ve already done so and if they then reject the pup and your offer then well you will only benefit from it, you’ll get the full price, it will all be handled the way it should be and in a way you’re happy and comfortable with.

STAND YOUR GROUND!!!
Naysa? | Jan 20, 2010


At risk of a thousand t/d’s.
If they have waited this long they are unlikely to NOT get the puppy vaccinated, are they its an expensive pup and they have experience of the breed, they own one already. which is fit and healthy

You can’t charge for a vaccination you haven’t paid for either can you? I doubt the vaccine would kick in that quickly anyway so a few days early wont make much difference. its not a health prob, the pup has already been subjected to outside people hasnt it.

I can see they want the pup earlier, young as poss so they can bond with it.. They just cant wait to get him home and love him, they have waited so long, its unfair to call them ‘impatient’ isnt it? its not an impulse buy.

Keep on good terms with them so you can keep in touch and know the dog is doing well and you are then available for help or advice aren’t you.
Im in touch with people who had my puppies 20 years ago, (of course the dogs gone by now!!!! ) but we are still friends.
Summer Rain | Jan 20, 2010


Don’t be bullied into anything you feel is wrong for an animal. Offer them the puppy at the price recently quoted vaccination fee and all,all they then have to do is take the puppy early but at the due date take it to your vet to be vaccinated.If they don’t agree it’s more than a big hint to you that they don’t have the interests of the puppy at heart.Agreements can change between people hun yours has had to change time and again to suit them. So its time to put your foot down and make sure they are the right owners for your pup.
Wendy | Jan 20, 2010


If you feel like this now, and are losing trust in these people, then I would strongly reconsider letting them have a puppy !

I agree that if you have not paid for a vaccination and you let the puppy go without vaccinating, then under normal circumstances then it would not be a big deal to knock of the price of the vaccine, BUT as you have already reduced this puppy by ?150 I would feel very insulted if the new owners then insisted I reduce the puppy by a further amount because they do not want to wait a little longer. Personally I prefer to wait until 10-12 weeks before vaccinating, so for me I would prefer NOT to have them done before they left for their new home, but that is another issue.

The fact you have posed this question here seems to me that you are having doubts aboout the new owners, and they are certainly not treating you with respect, but more like a furtniture store seller!

I would not have reduced the puppy price in the first place, unless it was someone who was a close friend or I knew very well. It costs money to health screen and properly raise a litter of puppies. Anyone who asks me to discount is insulting my standards and would be shown the door!

Whether you want to continue with this sale is up to you, if you have ANY doubts, then I suggest you tell them that the puppy is staying with you and is no longer for sale.

I would also be very suspicious as to why they did not want the puppy KC registered and this makes no sense at all. If the puppy were KC registered with a non-breeding endorsement and was sold with a contract of sale, this would protect your rights and the puppy far more than selling the puppy with NO paperwork.
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I suggest you take a hard look at this and think carefully as to whether or not this family really is the right home for one of your precious puppies.

ADDED: Sorry had to-edit this as my PC froze and I duplicated a few bits :-)
EssJay O Think before you breed | Jan 20, 2010


You were a bit silly you should never not registered the puppy as things can go wrong and you will be the one losing out as the value of the puppy has now dropped as it has no papers. Why can’t they wait another week for there puppy that waited this long the health of the puppy should be the most important thing to them. I wouldn’t let them have a puppy if i was you. They are trying to take advantage of you. If they have given you a deposit i would suggest returning it and contact other people on you list i am sure there is someone who want mind the puppy is not registered and waiting till it is 9 weeks. You need to feel confortable with the people who buy your puppies. It is your responsiblity to make sure that each puppy gets a good home that care about the welfare and health of the puppy. These people just seem to want a pure breed dog for as cheap as possible.
poodle power | Jan 20, 2010


If I were you, I would have stuck out and said the puppies will not be leaving until the 9th week. The couple might not be happy about it but you are the breeder and they are your terms. If they have waited this long, what difference will another week make?

However, now you have said about the waiver, you have already given them the option to take him away earlier. I am not sure the relevance of the waiver is; is it just if they don’t vaccinate him properly or have health problems with him?

If they do choose to take him home early, you could ask them to bring him to your vet appointment to be vaccinated at the same time as the others. That way, they will get him when they want him and you will have the peace of mind that he has been checked over.

Alternatively, you could say they can pick him up on the day of the vaccination so that they only have to wait an extra few days if they object to waiting a week.
Natalie | Jan 20, 2010


I wouldn’t sell them the puppy…

I have a litter of chocolate lab pups just now, they’re 10wks old and I have 3 left…..

If anybody asked for one without papers that would be a red flag to me…….

It makes NO sense whatsoever…….

Actually it’s just plain weird……

As for insisting on taking the dog on a certain date, thats another red flag……

For me one red flag would be enough, two and there’d be no chance any of my pups would be going…..

Find another home for your pup……

And get the full value as well…..

Why the hell should you knock money off?????

If they really wanted one of your pups they’d have paid the proper price……

It’s a dog not a car!
Whipass Chick | Jan 20, 2010


Its your puppy.

Either they wait until 9 weeks or they don’t get the puppy.

I understand the KC papers part, my dog isnt KC reg’d and that was good for us because we didnt want to pay the extra anyway but you stick to your guns, if they cannot wait 1 week for a lifelong pet then dont sell the puppy to them.

You have no obligation to them.

It seems that if they cannot just wait and let you do the first vaccinations then perhaps they are intending on not bothering at all with the shots??

Be careful, this puppy’s health and well being is far more important than bein kind and courteous to this couple.
Kikieee | Jan 20, 2010


get legal advice but do not release the puppies with out jabs vet checks and issist on papers if anything goes wrong it on your head with out the papers can you risk all your puppies for one couple you say you have a long waiting list some one will go with the sake on your terms but seek legal advice before you drelease ther puppy you do not know what these people are doing behind closed doors and it sounds suspect to me
shannonhf05 | Jan 20, 2010


Stand by your guns. Insist that they wait until the vaccinations have been administered but don’t knock anymore off the price. They will have to pay for the rest of the jabs, anyway!

Just a point – when I bought my Golden Retrievers I had to sign a form to say that I would not breed from the girls unless I got permission from the breeder – this was purely to safeguard her breed name and reputation (one of my Golden’s is bred from a Cruft’s winner). We had no problem with this as the girls were both spayed after their first season – we had no intention of showing them let alone breeding them (they would only win the daftest dog in show, anyway)! Do you do this? I assumed it was a regular thing with breeders.

It’s your breed and your pups. If they don’t like it then tough!
kaznaid | Jan 20, 2010


From the sounds of it your agreement was verbal so they can’t do anything.

I would tell them that by doing what they want you are jeopardising your licence and you would no longer be a reputable breeder. No money has changed hands so you are still the legal owner of the pup.
I wouldn’t bow down to their demands if you are not happy with them – it’s a sellers market, I am sure you can find a better home for the pup?
kitty | Jan 20, 2010


I think Communication may have broken down, you could ask the couple why they want to take the puppy before the pup is vaccinated and vet checked. It appears from your question and details that you believe the couple are decent enough and would give a good home to your pup which is important however it is not ideal to sell a puppy to people you are not comfortable with, as a large part of being a good breeder is aftercare and if the relationship is already breaking down then you have to ask if you can really offer good aftercare.

I would arrange another meeting with the couple, they may be having problems understanding you as you are them, they may think you are moving the goal posts, have you ever told them in the past that they could have the puppy at eight weeks old? I am asking this because you say your vet has changed the vaccination dates, they may have made plans to ensure they are at home when the pup arrives. They may think that leaving the pup for those extra weeks will make it more difficult to introduce the pup to their existing dog, you have no idea what they are thinking and they may have misunderstood your intentions, so discuss this with them, they may not understand why you are charging them for vaccinations when you are not paying the vet charges, they may also want to have the dog vet checked by their own vet. You probably wish you never reduced the price for them and that you never agreed to not registering the pup however this is a lesson you have learnt but it still leaves you with the problems you have mentioned, I would get my thoughts clear and then contact them to discuss the issues, if your policy is to vaccinate and have a vet check the pups then you should stick to this policy and make it clear from the start, when you start to make exceptions and mention waivers it all becomes complicated
Mazzz 0 | Jan 20, 2010


I think these people are rushing you. Do they live a long way off. They are keen and too impatient. It is not your fault the Vet changed the dates.

You should have stuck to your guns and done all the paper works and KC and injections and the strict time they could fetch the puppy up front. You are the seller and they should adhere to your rules. I think they want the dog and will be excellent owners but tried to buy it cheaper than normal.

I do not not know legal advice. That puppy should have his shots if that is the way you do it. No doubt they would get them done for him. You don’t buy a meal and then try to have it cheaper by saying you will bring your own plates. Your rules are your rules.

There has been a complicated mix up and they are bullying you. You in my opinion have been fair with them dropping the price and suchlike. At the end of the day the puppy is the important subject and should have only the best.
Joanna | Jan 20, 2010

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